Twilight News: Hardwicke Fired Off of 'Twilight' Franchise

I believe Paul directed while Chris produced. They both also produced Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist or Michael Cera Plays A Nerdy Teenager III.

This can't be a good sign for New Moon. Apparently, Dakota Fanning has been signed on to play someone named Jane. I'm that will mean something to folks who have read the book, but is it ever a good thing to have Dakota Fanning in your movie?

I think Dakota Fanning is a great fit for Jane. Tiny, fragile person who can do immense amounts of damage in a second. I just don't know if she can pull off evil.

Still haven't read any of these but my wife is reading them. She is on book three now and I read a few pages.

It is fucking terrible. I do not think they edited this book at all. Here is what happened.

The first book was released and made an assload of money so they basically shuttled whatever she had done out the door as soon as she finished typing it up. They had some intern edit it and he finished the editing in about 48 minutes. The book is a mess. Numerous typos, misspelled words and the like.

One of the signatures of a hack writer is using colorful terms for "said" like "I yelled acidly" or "I muttered incoherently" or "I growled" or "I whispered glumly" and this book uses nothing but. This covers up the bad dialogue and unclear tone of the character.

I am not exaggerating that I found roughly 8 "I whispered"s and 5 "I muttered"s on about 10 pages of the book. This is just lazy editing and writing.

And one sentence read this. I am not kidding; this is a direct quote...

"I growled unimpressively."

Are you fucking kidding me?!?!?!?

I really hope the first book was not this full of errors and if it was how did this shit get published???

My wife says they are good books but she also admits to having skipped over entire paragraphs that were either boring and useless or badly written and that the whispered and muttereds are bugging the shit out of her. This is a sure sign that the book did not receive proper editing.

One of the signatures of a hack writer is using colorful terms for "said" like "I yelled acidly" or "I muttered incoherently" or "I growled" or "I whispered glumly" and this book uses nothing but. This covers up the bad dialogue and unclear tone of the character.

I thoroughly enjoyed this rant, Donte. I completely agree with the above statement. If you have to impress your audience with fancy synonyms for the word said A) you can't come up with better things to fill your pages with and B) your audience are fucking idiots.

How exactly does a book get printed with spelling mistakes and grammatical errors? I mean maybe one or two might slip by the editors, but several? I would hope that publishing companies would at least take the time to make it look presentable, even if the story is shit.

yeah, her vocabulary must be as bad as, you know, whatever

NSpan wrote:yeah, her vocabulary must be as bad as, you know, whatever

You forgot "Like" in there. Yeah, her vocabulary, like, must be as bad as, you know, like, whatever."

LOL

It just bugs me as a reader that a publishing company would allow that to be released in that condition. It is a shame that the publishing world is in such a bad way that they will just push a sequal out as soon as they can to get the money since they know the majority of the audience is teenage girls with limited grammatical knowledge. (No offense to Becs, Lilly, or Aly or any other adult fans of this book, my wife included, but this statement is true)

The same thing happened to me with a book on CD I was listening to in the car. I listen to audiobooks instead of the radio because it is a different medium and keeps me hearing novels in a different format. One thing that has happened is that with audiobooks, you can not skip sections. We have all been reading a book and we come upon a passage or paragraph that is not needed or boring and you simply skip it. With an audiobook you are unable to skip it and are forced to listen to the bad writing. This author is one I have read before and I really liked his books. He would write a paragraph or a couple of sentences about what each person was wearing or what this house looked like and I don't really care. "Lucas wandered into the precinct and ran into Sgt. Smith. Smith was wearing a blue suit and had on brown alligator loafers. His stylish suit was covered by a..." I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!!! If I wanted to read about men's wear I would be reading Esquire or GQ not a crime novel!

Now I am wondering if all of his books had this useless writing and I glossed over it while getting to the good parts of the story. The other problem is that you almost always see this bad writing in sequals and series books. The first time you get a novel published as a new author, it is scrutinized and picked over and edited beyond belief. If it sells a million copies by some chance and the writer gets a contract then it seems like they stop editing as carefully and just throw it out there to get the money.

This offends me as a book lover and as a writer. Hell, it should offend Stephanie Meyer unless she is only concerned about the money and not concerned that the book was released before it was edited properly.

I thought it was common knowledge that the Twilight books are terribly written. Not only the grammatical errors, but the pacing is atrocious. She spends whole pages describing what color Edward's eyes were, and then in the first book, she creates and destroys the main villian (who by the way doesn't appear until about 600 pages in) within a few chapters.

I read the first book out of curiousty and was skimming pages just trying to get to some plot. I eventually read the other 3 just to see how it ends.

It's insulting that people compare this dreck to Harry Potter.

I thought it was common knowledge that these books don't have a plot. They exist purely for women to fantasize about their dream guy.... hmmm....

Twilight is the female equivalent to pornography!!!

Maybe Summit will hire Diablo Cody to add some pizzazz to the script for New Moon.
If that's not an already existing rumor, we should start it. We can say "we heard the news somewhere, honest to blog, but we just can't remember the source right now."

MisterInformative wrote:Maybe Summit will hire Diablo Cody to add some pizzazz to the script for New Moon.
If that's not an already existing rumor, we should start it. We can say "we heard the news somewhere, honest to blog, but we just can't remember the source right now."

omg, that would be SO wizard!

Gruel....!!!

(Oh wait, that was Tina Fey.)

Dude, we aren't talking about Crime and Punishment here... Its a book intended for teenage girls, what do you expect? Essentially it all depends on your definition of plot really as to how lacking it is, yes, its slow paced, but not *lacking*. The fact that you consider the small part of he sole villain of the first book and his demise in the end of book 1 to detract from the plot shows that you don't get it, he is just one in a sequence of escalating events that are the catalyst for the plot of Edward and Bella being drawn hopelessly to each other. That is the point, the plot, the overarching theme of the books, its a love story not a comic book. Also, if you read further (or as the movie alludes to), the death of the villain in book 1 leads to the introduction of the insidious baddies that follow through for the rest of the books, however even with a consistent threat I doubt you would consider it plot as the focus remains firmly on the love story.
So anwyay.. I'm pretty sure porn is the female equivalent to porn, but Twilight is probably somewhere in there.

I'm trying to imagine what 'yelling acidly' at someone would actually sound like, but I just can't figure it out.

Of course I also lack imagination.

Yelling acidly is probably like what Max Payne did after taking that drug in last year's disastrous adaptation of the game.

And now I have a vision.

Oh, and thanks for reminding me that I sat through 'Max Payne.'

Jerk! *lol*

becs wrote:I'm pretty sure porn is the female equivalent to porn, but Twilight is probably somewhere in there.

haha, well said

becs wrote:Dude, we aren't talking about Crime and Punishment here... Its a book intended for teenage girls, what do you expect? Essentially it all depends on your definition of plot really as to how lacking it is, yes, its slow paced, but not *lacking*. The fact that you consider the small part of he sole villain of the first book and his demise in the end of book 1 to detract from the plot shows that you don't get it, he is just one in a sequence of escalating events that are the catalyst for the plot of Edward and Bella being drawn hopelessly to each other. That is the point, the plot, the overarching theme of the books, its a love story not a comic book. Also, if you read further (or as the movie alludes to), the death of the villain in book 1 leads to the introduction of the insidious baddies that follow through for the rest of the books, however even with a consistent threat I doubt you would consider it plot as the focus remains firmly on the love story.
So anwyay.. I'm pretty sure porn is the female equivalent to porn, but Twilight is probably somewhere in there.

This is true, Victoria does become a bigger villian in books 2 & 3. I'll give Twilight this - it is interesting. I mean, it kept me involved enough to buy all 4 books. It's still terribly written though. But I think the books are almost entirely unfilmable, since as you pointed out, the plot is the love between Edward and Bella. Having such a romance as the MAIN point comes off very boring on-screen, as evidenced by the 2 hour + runtime of the first movie that felt like years.

I don't really know where I was going with that.....but I think Dakota Fanning will make a great Jane.

Becs, how do you think they'll handle the communication between the wolves? Subtitles or voice-overs superimposed over shots of anxious looking wolf faces?

I just about cracked up at Donte's rant.

Twilight is not well-written. But, it has a draw. It pulls you in and never lets you go. I will admit that she does overuse some words at times (ie. "chargin"), but I overlook that cause I get pulled in.

As Becs mentioned, it is a love story. It just has vampires in it. This book is aimed at young women. The author basically uses herself as the main character as a character description.

The arch of Victoria builds over 2 books and has a pretty decent action sequence in the third book, which I can't wait to see.

I'm just wondering how in the hell they are going to do Breaking Dawn. I think anyone who's read it would know of a few particular things that will be hard to accomplish, especially with Summit and their fuckery.


Wow, I'm just going on a weird tangent.

I was actually referring to the fact that she goes and tattles to the Volturi, then they stick around and act insidious through the rest of the books.. but whatev.

I imagine wolf speak will be some sort of foggy dream-o-vision pictures and that is more how the books explain it.

Are you talking about when Irina goes to the Volturi? When she tells them about Renesmee?

lillylovelost wrote:Are you talking about when Irina goes to the Volturi? When she tells them about Renesmee?

No, it's when Kajaree meets Ophelhem. Neither of them ever meet Cyriandra.

lillylovelost wrote:Are you talking about when Irina goes to the Volturi? When she tells them about Renesmee?

No, I didn't have the two confused, but for some reason was thinking basically the same thing happened twice... I guess it was Edward's fault they got involved not Victoria's.

NSpan wrote:

lillylovelost wrote:Are you talking about when Irina goes to the Volturi? When she tells them about Renesmee?

No, it's when Kajaree meets Ophelhem. Neither of them ever meet Cyriandra.

Beat me too this joke. Great job NSpan.

NSpan wrote:

lillylovelost wrote:Are you talking about when Irina goes to the Volturi? When she tells them about Renesmee?

No, it's when Kajaree meets Ophelhem. Neither of them ever meet Cyriandra.

Speaking in tongues... How talented!