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Post by Donte77 on Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:28 am

Ok looked up the Wiggles. They are rather frightening. Like a bunch of unmasked Barney's. Creepy.
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Post by geezer9687 on Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:24 am

Rough weekend eh Buscemi? Toy Story made 5.5 million more its opening weekend than you had its entire run. Zombieland almost doubled your prediction. Hopefully you get back on the right track next week with Couples Retreat.

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Re: Buscemi's Pros and Cons Part 3: October 2009

Post by Buscemi on Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:29 am

I didn't expect a three-hour plus double feature of a widely available product to do anything. If you remember, the last Nightmare Before Christmas double feature stumbled out of the gate last year due to it being widely available (well that and Disney exhausted that movie's playability).

Meanwhile, I had Zombieland at $16 million. I was unsure of it due to horror comedy being box office poison. I do expect the genre's numbers to return back to normal though once the films return to normal convention rather than being "Scream with (insert here)".

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Post by geezer9687 on Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:49 am

Actually you had it at 14. I don't get the Scream comparison.

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Post by Buscemi on Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:56 am

Both Zombieland and Scream are about teenagers fighting horror movie villains. Also, both movies feature a know-it-all who spends the whole movie explaining rules for certain situations (which is, the whole concept). Not fun.

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Re: Buscemi's Pros and Cons Part 3: October 2009

Post by W on Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:28 am

Woody plays a teenager?

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Post by Buscemi on Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:12 am

The other main characters are the teenagers. Jesse Eisenberg (who is terrible in the film) is basically the main character since he narrates and explains the rules of zombies.

I would have liked the film more had they ditched the subplot with the teenagers and instead made it a parody of I Am Legend with Woody Harrelson playing the Will Smith role. Instead of a safe haven, the lead is looking for Twinkies and Bill Murray's house. Also, they could have added a joke referencing Wall-E (seriously every time someone mentioned Twinkies, I thought of how Wall-E had a good supply of them so the cockroach could eat).

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Re: Buscemi's Pros and Cons Part 3: October 2009

Post by W on Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:25 am

Or... now hear me out here because I may be sounding nuts...

or they can take the 8.6 IMDB rating, the #130 ranking on the top 250, the 89% Fresh rating, and the $24.5 M OW (which is $1 M higher than their budget), which is what they now have.

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Post by Buscemi on Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:30 am

I'm telling you, people simply like it because it's Scream with zombies. That and the studios are telling us to like it.

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Post by geezer9687 on Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:37 am

Yes... people are liking it because they are told to like it... or because its Scream with Zombies. Because Scream was so freaking hilarious.

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Re: Buscemi's Pros and Cons Part 3: October 2009

Post by W on Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:46 am

Buscemi wrote:I'm telling you, people simply like it because it's Scream with zombies. That and the studios are telling us to like it.

You know my motto (or one of them) when predicting box office: "People know what they like." The studios tell you to like everything and they promote the hell out of many films every year. Some do well, some don't. The ones that do well are the ones that appeal to people. While this film didn't appeal to you, it did for a large part of those that saw it. Because people have different tastes than you doesn't mean that they are stupid. I think your idea for remaking the film sounds like a Seltzer/Freidberg plot.

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Post by Buscemi on Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:48 am

I'm suggesting a parody for a singular movie (you know, the good parodies), not a combination of unrelated movies (like Friedberg/Seltzer). Also since quite a few people hated I Am Legend despite the huge box office numbers, a parody seems welcome.

But the joke about Wall-E having the Twinkies stays.

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Re: Buscemi's Pros and Cons Part 3: October 2009

Post by W on Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:55 am

I don't know anyone that hated IAL. Everyone thought it was pretty damned good that I know who saw it. Esp. the ones that saw it in theaters.

The only negative comment I've heard is the ending. I don't know why I'm defending a film that's been on DVD for two years, but that's my view on it.

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Post by Buscemi on Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:03 am

Not only the ending, but the CGI as well and the fact that so much was changed from the book.

I hated that
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the safe haven was real. I wanted the vampire/zombie things to attack everyone and to show that the survivors had no hope.

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Post by mfrendo on Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:43 am

I thought I Am Legend was fucking awful. The book was WAY better and far different. Felt the movie was just super weak overall.
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Re: Buscemi's Pros and Cons Part 3: October 2009

Post by BanksIsDaFuture on Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:40 am

I used to hate the fact that the chick shows up in IAL, but then I read the book and she's in that too.

I think if they kept the original ending, it would've been seriously unrealistic and wouldn't have worked at all. Only thing that was really bad and totally unavoidable was the terrible CGI. Still don't know why they didn't go with people in make-up for the zombies.
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Re: Buscemi's Pros and Cons Part 3: October 2009

Post by Donte77 on Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:05 am

Zombieland was suberb. End of story. LOL

IAL was ehh OK. But as a huge Matheson fan I was mostly disappointed with the movie because it wasn't as good as the book. If I had never read the book I may have given it a better rating. The FX were fairly crappy also although I never let that affect a movie's goodness. Watch Clash of the Titans now. The FX are terrible but the movie still rules. Great FX can help a rating but bad FX don't hurt the rating as much.
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Re: Buscemi's Pros and Cons Part 3: October 2009

Post by BanksIsDaFuture on Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:30 am

To me, Clash of The Titans is almost better because of the bad F/X - it's part of the movies charm.

But IAL cost over $150M and there's no reason they made such a terrible decision regarding the biggest part of the film, besides Will Smith. I guess they couldn't have changed their mind when they saw how bad it looked in post, but why did they decide to CGI the zombies in the first place? I can't even think of another movie that tried to do that, probably because it's an awful decision.
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Re: Buscemi's Pros and Cons Part 3: October 2009

Post by NSpan on Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:32 am

i'd take The Last Man on Earth over IAL and Omega Man any day

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Re: Buscemi's Pros and Cons Part 3: October 2009

Post by leestu on Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:11 pm

NSpan wrote:i'd take The Last Man on Earth over IAL and Omega Man any day

Hear, hear! (which according to straightdope.com means "hear, all ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to say!" ...)
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