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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by IPKI$$ on Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:32 am

Geez, Happy Birthday, man. You're one of the few people that I've never met in person that I would consider a friend. We don't necessarily share opinions on every subject, but the beauty of being in a debate with you is that it keeps me sharp. You are more educated, articulate, passionate, open-minded, and just downright friendly than most of the people that I come into contact with on a regular basis. Have a great birthday! And if you think 22's bad, just wait till you hit 23.

Also, W, some artists I personally feel will be looked on as the greats of our time are in no particular order:
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Beastie Boys
The Killers
The White Stripes
Green Day
John Mayer
Radiohead
Fall Out Boy
Brand New
Justin Timberlake
And sadly, U2 and Coldplay. Along with others I'm sure. You never know what golden oldies will sound like to future generations. In 20 years, Jason Mraz might be considered a lyrical genius. We'll just have to wait and see.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by Buscemi on Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:54 am

Fall Out Boy sucks. They are some of the biggest posers of all-time. Also, I think Pete Wentz is only known because he married Ashlee Simpson.

And people only seem care about John Mayer because of who he's dating. As for his music, no one really cares.

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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by W on Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:02 am

I like a lot of these guys (Peppers, Beasties, Green Day), and I really can't say a thing about rap, so I won't. But I have a hard time believing that these bands will be thought of as equals with the greats. I can see them as second tier Aerosmith-like bands.

Anyways, I'm pretty much done on the subject... I actually didn't really intend to start it.

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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by IPKI$$ on Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:14 am

I have to respectfully disagree with you on both counts as I don't feel that you've listened to either enough to truly form those opinions or you wouldn't say that. You're like I was at your age. You hate popular things because everyone else likes it and you love weird obscure shit because you love to say things are underrated. Am I right?

John Mayer is an excellent musician with countless commercial and critical hits whose had 4 best-selling albums, at least 2 of which have gone platinum. He pretty much owns the best male pop vocal performance grammy category, and is one of the deepest lyricists out right now.

Fall Out Boy started out as a crappy punk band. Their first CD is pretty good, not great, but it's got a few awesome tracks and is far from forgettable. Their second disc is much better and pretty much catapulted them to the forefront literally overnight. Their third disc showed an incredible amount of musical growth, and their most recent CD is phenomenal. It's obvious you only know the singles, which admittedly don't even begin to capture the true esscence of the band. And as far as being posers...First of all, do you even know any of them well enough to say that about them? Secondly, they are without a doubt the most influential band out right now. Every new band out there wants to sound like Fall Out Boy. And they are constantly tweeking their sound to keep themselves ahead of the curve. I honestly feel they are our generation's beatles. Whether you like them or not, you can't seriously ignore the impact theyve had on popular music over the last 5 years.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by geezer9687 on Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:35 am

I have to disagree with you on Fall Out Boy Stan. I absolutely fucking adored From Under the Cork Tree, but everything that I have heard since has really turned me off to them. I do agree though that they are very influential.

Now we can end this musical debate unless someone wants to open it up in the Music forum. It's officially my birthday!

6, Stan, you guys flatter me Embarassed but thank you for the words. They mean more to me than I could ever tell you.

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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by IPKI$$ on Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:44 am

Sorry to say, but The White Stripes, The Killers, and Radiohead are already widely considered to be up there.

And just for the sake of broadening musical horizons

Essential Fall Out Boy

1. Grand Theft Autumn
2. Sending Postcards from a Plane Crash (Wish You Were Here)
3. Our Lawyer Made Us Change the Name of this Song So We Wouldn't Get Sued
4. Nobody Puts Baby in the Corner
5. I've Got a Dark Alley and a Bad Idea that Says You Should Shut Your Mouth
6. I Slept with Someone in Fall Out Boy and All I Got was this Stupid Song Written about Me
7. XO
8. Takeover, The Break's Over
9. Golden
10. Bang the Doldrums
11. You're Crashing, but You're No Wave
12. I've Got All this Ringing in My Ears and None on My Finger
13. I Don't Care
14. America's Suitehearts
15. What a Catch, Donnie
16. Tiffany Blews

If you still think they suck...I tried.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by IPKI$$ on Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:44 am

Sorry, now I'm done with this.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by undeadmonkey on Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:41 am

Red Hot Chili Peppers
The Killers
Justin Timberlake

I listen to these three a LOT

I've loved the KIllers latest album, I would give it a 5/5
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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by geezer9687 on Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:48 pm

BanksIsDaFuture wrote:
W wrote:
NSpan wrote:let's not idealize the past TOO much, W. the three biggest hits of the 70s were recorded by Abba, the Village People, and a duet between John Travolta and Olivia Newton John..

there will always be people playing, recording, and producing good music.. and there will always be plenty of people supporting shitty music.. if anything, we're fortunate in that we have more access to music than ever before.. if you don't think people are recording "meaningful" music in the 21st century, you aren't looking hard enough

Where is it? Where's the artists that we're going to look back in 20 years and say "GENIUS!"? I don't see it? Are we going to make an argument for Coldplay as one of the best bands ever? Nope. Who's in that argument since the death of Kurt Cobain fifteen (or so, I'm not looking it up) years ago?

You don't see it because only hindsight is 20/20.

Damn Right! Column Drop! Its coming next week!

P.S. This thread needed purification. I took care of that.

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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by undeadmonkey on Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:39 pm

lol, i still think the 808's album was amazing
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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by mfrendo on Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:25 pm

Man, I don't think I agree with any of you're musical tastes, with the exception of Geezers love of the Ramones (have you read Dee Dee's autobio yet? It's pretty good, though now that I'm thinking about it, "Please Kill Me: An Oral History of Punk" is much better and goes into all the punk bands from the '70's). Lately I've been listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd and the rap artists on the Def Jux label (Cage, El-P, Aesop Rock, etc.). Oh, and some Dropkick Murphys for good measure.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by Buscemi on Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:27 pm

Don't forget Wesley Willis, Frendo.

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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by geezer9687 on Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:40 pm

My brother, who is way more into all the punk history and music in general than I am, has Please Kill Me and read it and loved it.

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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by mfrendo on Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:20 am

Yeah, it was a really good book. A Riot of Their Own, about the Clash, was great too.

And how did I forget Wesley Willis! I was just listening to "I Wupped Spiderman's Ass" day before yesterday!
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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by donnie on Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:03 am

Happy birthday, Geezer!
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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by NSpan on Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:21 am

i saw wesley willis about a month before he died........ probably the worst show i've ever been to

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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by mfrendo on Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:00 am

I was SO close to seeing Willis live. I was actually next in line, and with the guys from Papa Roach when they had just broken big (don't know them that well personally, but their friends of friends) and we still couldn't get in.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by Buscemi on Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:03 am

Didn't Papa Roach have just that one hit back in 2002 (Last Resort) before disappearing?

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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by mfrendo on Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:36 am

Yeah, this was right when that was big. They had a few other albums that I guess sold pretty well, but I haven't heard anything since the second one (which sold shitty but I thought it was actually better).
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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by Buscemi on Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:41 am

"Don't give a fuck if I cut my arm bleeding?"

Is that lyric supposed to be bad grammar or is it a contraction of two sentences?

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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by mfrendo on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:18 am

That wasn't even the worst of the lyrics, bro.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by Buscemi on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:21 am

Those are the only lyrics that I remember (because Weird Al used Last Resort in one of his Polka Medleys*).

*-Last Resort appeared in Angry White Boy Polka

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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by leestu on Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:42 am

Happy Birthday Geezer. I still remember your friendly accepting responses to some of my earliest posts that went a long way to making me feel welcome and comfortable. For that I thank you.
As to the Fall Out Boy discussion, personally I like them but that is irrelevant. Whatever you think of their music, they make great song titles.

"A Little Less Sixteen Candles, a Little More "Touch Me""
"I'm Like a Lawyer with the Way I'm Always Trying to Get You Off (Me & You)"
"My Heart Will Always Be the B-Side to My Tongue"
"The Pros and Cons of Breathing"
"Reinventing the Wheel to Run Myself Over"
"Champagne for My Real Friends, Real Pain for My Sham Friends"
as well as the highlight from Ipkiss's list
"Sending Postcards from a Plane Crash (Wish You Were Here)"
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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by transformers2 on Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:40 am

I agree leestu. IMO they are a shit band but they do have some funny song titles. They are a very few 2000's era punk bands that are any good. Rise Against,Against Me!,Billy Talent,Zebrahead and A Day To Remember are the only good ones that i can think of.
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Re: Happy Birthday, Geezer!

Post by IPKI$$ on Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:47 am

What about Brand New, Thursday, A.F.I., Funeral For a Friend or Story of the Year? I think the anti-scene scene has brainwashed you guys.
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