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Post by silversurfer19 on Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:47 am

That sounds right up Donte's alley lol!

Actually, I'd be quite interested to read it too, although I don't have any writing to provide in return. I do, however, write almost continuously on here....

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Post by mfrendo on Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:19 am

I would be happy to have you read it, Surfer. Shoot me an email at mfrendo@gmail.com, and I'll send it to you in a few days (when I'm finished reformatting the new edits).
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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by Donte77 on Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:33 am

mfrendo wrote:I remember reading David Morrell...jeez, that was like back in 7th grade or something. I remember Frat of the Stone, Fifth Profession, and a few others (I think I read First Blood too, which he wrote). Man, been awhile since I thought of his stuff...

What's some good Chandler to start with? BTW, Donte, we should trade stories sometime. I just finished a full length screenplay (doing final editing now) that I could shoot to you, and you could send me a story or two...always good to get some feedback and/or inspiration. I will warn you, my screenplay is not for the light of heart. I got it read by one film co. reader, and she said her studio wouldn't deal with the subject matter.

We read Morrell at about the same age. My dad got me into him. He is the reason that I loved the Bourne movies when they came out. Finally a spy who could kick your ass on screen. Smile He did write First Blood which was a great book.

For Chandler either try the classic The Big Sleep or The Long Goodbye. He also has a bunch of good short stories. I remember getting a book from the library that had about 15 shorts in it years ago but I have no idea what it was called.
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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by leestu on Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:52 am

For a fascinating controversial (for it's time, maybe not as much now) read check out 'The Dice Man' by Luke Rhinehart.

One of my favourites is the classic 'Catch-22' by Joseph Heller.

Anything by Peter Carey, especially 'Bliss' or 'The Unusual Life Of Tristan Smith'.
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frendo: How much feedback do you want? My wife has written a screenplay; I'll see if she is interested in a similar offer to the one you made to Donte. You get 2 for the price of one there because she and I would both make the time to read it.

I will endorse a lot of the previous suggestions, Terry Pratchett, King's short stories, Lovecraft and Poe etc,
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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by Buscemi on Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:04 am

Didn't Donte actually write that superhero porno that he said he'd write with that girl from Redline as Wonder Woman?

Possible Title: Superhero Porno Movie

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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by mfrendo on Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:26 am

yeah, I'm down to let anybody read it. just email me and I'll respond when edits are finished. may be a few days longer than previously expected, as I just now (like in the last 1/2 hour) thought of a part I wanted to change, which may change a few other scenes as well. i expect to be done by next week still. once again, be warned, while this isn't as bad as a Takashi Miike film (so don't expect it to be TOO extreme), it does have some harsh subject matter.
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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by Buscemi on Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:38 am

You know what would make a good "extreme" movie:

Backstage At The Maury Povich Show

Sypnosis: One week in the lives of several out-of-control teenage girls. Watch them drink, smoke marijuana, snort cocaine, do heroin, crack and/or meth, steal cars, have sex, get pregnant, get into fights, beat up other people, talk about their futures being unwed teen mothers or whores, get lie detector tests and in the end, get chewed out by Maury and his posse.

Rating: NC-17 for graphic sexual content, explicit drug content, strong language and some violence (for adults and Dontes only)
Starring: Maury Povich, Victoria, Candylicious, Angel Swann, Autumn the 14-year-old who drank vodka straight and stole cars, Kayla the girl who never showered, The Dope Girls, Tarrilyn the 16-year-old hooker, Tiffany the 15-year-old crack addict, the girl who had sex for a cheeseburger, the MySpace stripper who repeated seventh grade three times, the girl on lockdown and more

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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by Donte77 on Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:14 am

Buscemi wrote:Didn't Donte actually write that superhero porno that he said he'd write with that girl from Redline as Wonder Woman?

Possible Title: Superhero Porno Movie

Hahha I haven't but I could try. I have had this hilarious idea about super hero porno before but I would get sued by DC and Marvel. So 2 friends and I made out own characters so we could make funny x-rated superhero comics (this was when I was about 20-22). Too bad none of us were great artists. Some of the names were (and these are all intellectual property of Don Hill, Philip Richie and Brian Frain) ™ Dick Terrific, Milk Maid, Sex Machine, etc.

I should start on one.

Although not many pornos really need an actual screenplay. More like a cast and an empty house. LOL
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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by Keyser Soze on Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:31 am

Just about anything Alan Moore has written.

Try pretty much any book Neil Gaiman has written including Coraline, Neverwhere, American Gods and his short story collection Smoke and Mirrors for the best reverse take on Snow White ever done called, Snow, Glass and Apples. Definitely his entire Sandman comic series. Probably the best start to finish comic series ever done.

If you like absurdist humor, try David Sedaris' new collection called When You Are Engulfed in Flames

Michael Chabon's The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay

Just about anything by Chuck Klosterman including "Sex, Drugs and Cocoa Puffs", "Fargo, Rock City", and a great book about the death places of famous rock stars, "Killing Yourself to Live"

Art Spiegelman's Maus, the only graphic novel to win a pulitzer about his father's ordeal during the Holocaust with the Nazi's depicted as cats and the Jews depicted as mice.

And last, but certainly not least, "Redemption Song, the Ballad of Joe Strummer" by Chris Salewicz.

That should give you enough until next week
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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by mfrendo on Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:36 am

Here are some more ideas Donte:

Dickdevil
Elektits
The Incredible Penis
Wondervagina
Anal-man
Cunt of Wrath (this one is actually something I came up with for Unreal Championship back in the day, and is a great villain name)
Iron Penis
Superchode
Magneto-dick (the wonders of what his power could be...)

I'll try to add some more as I study throughout the day...

And was that Joe Strummer book good, Keyser? I was thinking of picking it up for a while now...
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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by Keyser Soze on Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:58 am

mfrendo wrote:And was that Joe Strummer book good, Keyser? I was thinking of picking it up for a while now...

Yeah, it was really good. Couldn't put it down. A little slow in the beginning as his childhood wasn't that intersesting but as he got older, it really took off. Some really great insight especially into his post-Clash days with the Mescaleros.
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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by leestu on Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:13 am

Keyser Soze wrote:
Try pretty much any book Neil Gaiman has written including Coraline, Neverwhere, American Gods and his short story collection Smoke and Mirrors for the best reverse take on Snow White ever done called, Snow, Glass and Apples. Definitely his entire Sandman comic series. Probably the best start to finish comic series ever done.


Have you seen the BBC mini series?
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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by Keyser Soze on Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:15 am

Yep, saw it about 10 years ago. In fact, still have it on VHS
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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by Donte77 on Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:26 pm

Keyser Soze wrote:Just about anything Alan Moore has written.

Try pretty much any book Neil Gaiman has written including Coraline, Neverwhere, American Gods and his short story collection Smoke and Mirrors for the best reverse take on Snow White ever done called, Snow, Glass and Apples. Definitely his entire Sandman comic series. Probably the best start to finish comic series ever done.

If you like absurdist humor, try David Sedaris' new collection called When You Are Engulfed in Flames

Michael Chabon's The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay

Art Spiegelman's Maus, the only graphic novel to win a pulitzer about his father's ordeal during the Holocaust with the Nazi's depicted as cats and the Jews depicted as mice.

That should give you enough until next week

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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by Keyser Soze on Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:00 pm

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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by Alyson on Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:49 am

Keyser Soze wrote:

Try pretty much any book Neil Gaiman has written including Coraline, Neverwhere, American Gods and his short story collection Smoke and Mirrors for the best reverse take on Snow White ever done called, Snow, Glass and Apples. Definitely his entire Sandman comic series. Probably the best start to finish comic series ever done.


Sandman was my very first comic series to read straight through. It almost ruined me for all others because they could never live up. Smoke and Mirrors is one of my favorite short story collections, they are more like fairy tales.
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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by Keyser Soze on Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:01 am

Alyson wrote:Sandman was my very first comic series to read straight through. It almost ruined me for all others because they could never live up. Smoke and Mirrors is one of my favorite short story collections, they are more like fairy tales.

Alyson,

I've known Neil for about 20 years, and believe me, he's heard that from a lot of people. It's basically because it was one of the few comic series that was allowed to have a beginning, a middle and a proper ending. The fact the same writer was responsible for the entire series helped immensely.

Have you ever read any of his other comic work such as the Death mini series, Books of Magic, his short stint on Miracle Man, Black Orchid, or his first mainstream comic, Violent Cases? All are excellent reads.

I actually flew to Chicago about 10 years ago to see a stage adaptation of his graphic novel Signal to Noise which was quite good.
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Post by Donte77 on Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:34 am

Keyser Soze wrote: It's basically because it was one of the few comic series that was allowed to have a beginning, a middle and a proper ending. The fact the same writer was responsible for the entire series helped immensely.

That is a great point. Many writers are very good but they are stuck in a series that was created by a different guy so they have that limitation. One of the reasons Gaiman (and Moore) are so renowned is because they were among the few that were allowed free reign for creating and writing an entire book run. It doesn't hurt that they are both geniuses though.

I think there are a few other comic writers that could be that good but they are writing mainstream books with an already made world, characters, and have to work inside those lines. Sandman was created and written by one man and that sense of continuity really help drive that book above the rest.
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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by Synestro on Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:13 pm

Donte77 wrote:
A_Roode wrote:And if you liked Stephen King's last novel, you should really check out his new collection of short stories too. I actually prefer his short stories to his longer novels.

Reading it now. Smile

Getting it for Christmas. If you can find it, get a copy of The Bachman Books. It's out of print because of the relationship with the first story (Rage) and Colombine. The second story "The Long Walk" is a sweet read which I think would adapt well to the screen.
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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by Buscemi on Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:27 pm

The Long Walk is supposed to be Darabont's next film but considering how long he takes between films, that may be a while.

Meanwhile, I read The Lovely Bones. The supernatural parts were good but most of it felt like Fitzgerald gone hip. It was okay.

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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by A_Roode on Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:48 pm

Synestro wrote:
Donte77 wrote:
A_Roode wrote:And if you liked Stephen King's last novel, you should really check out his new collection of short stories too. I actually prefer his short stories to his longer novels.

Reading it now. Smile

Getting it for Christmas. If you can find it, get a copy of The Bachman Books. It's out of print because of the relationship with the first story (Rage) and Colombine. The second story "The Long Walk" is a sweet read which I think would adapt well to the screen.

I'm a bookstore manager in the real world so I get to see everything new when it comes out. One of our little perks is being able to borrow books from the store to read. I've picked up the new King and will be through it in no time! Smile

My two favourite of his longer works are 'Eyes of the Dragon' (make this a movie already people!) and 'The Long Walk' which was a mesmerizing read when I was growing up. If Darabont is going to adapt it, then I don't think it could be in better hands. I'm seriously stoked!
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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by Alyson on Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:54 pm

A_Roode wrote:

I'm a bookstore manager in the real world so I get to see everything new when it comes out. One of our little perks is being able to borrow books from the store to read. I've picked up the new King and will be through it in no time! Smile


Lucky. My very first job was working in a bookstore and to this day it is still my favorite job that I ever had. The best is being able to order books that the store normally doesn't carry - I ended up with a bunch of really random/ almost out of print fiction from the 30s and 40s.
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Post by A_Roode on Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:21 pm

*lol* and you've aired out my ulterior motive for working in a bookstore. I joke with my customers that I've been their for five years and am still trying to pay down my book debt. I'm constantly ordering hard to find and rare books. Getting them for a nice cheap rate doesn't hurt either! Very Happy
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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by leestu on Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:49 am

The Long Walk is my favourite King short story/novella also. I thought it was so good that I wanted my wife to read it, but she's one of those part time readers that take a year to read a book (if they even finish it at all). So every night while she cooked dinner etc I read it aloud to her. After a couple of sessions she was finding things to do just so that I could finish the story to her. Her equivalent of not being able to put the book down.
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Re: Need new book ideas.

Post by lillylovelost on Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:53 am

I just bought two books today with some gift cards:

Watchmen and The Time Traveler's Wife.

I'm currently reading Watchmen and it's fucking amazing.
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